In this episode of Communicating Cyber, we explore what happens when you dismantle the traditional chain of command within a security function.

Stefano Mazzucco from Mindera discusses how they manage cyber security across a global team of 1,200 people without a single boss or hierarchy in sight. We dive into the realities of working in a "teal" organisation where peer-to-peer accountability and horizontal communication replace the standard top-down mandates.

Stefano explains how trading the traditional chain of command for a culture of psychological safety allows for faster incident reporting and deeper personal responsibility.

We also discuss the shift from being an enforcer to being a coordinator, using risk-based evidence to influence autonomous teams rather than relying on authority.

It is a thought-provoking look at whether a rigid chain of command is actually a barrier to building a truly resilient security culture.