Now it’s Dave’s turn to interview Eric, who he describes as “a ball of energy on legs”. Eric talks about being the most “intelligent dipshit”you’ll ever meet and his ongoing struggle with reacting to life. He shares why he chooses to participate in so many creative and personal projects, and the tension he feels when he spreads himself too thin. The conversation moves into his work in men’s circles, the importance of taking off the mask in the presence of honorable men, and learning to vet those spaces. Eric also reflects on his path to becoming a drummer, his early encounters with darkness starting in college, and how that darkness has been both a burden and a gift. He opens up about the illusion of control anger has given him and what he calls the “spiritual contract” he signed before becoming human.