In this episode of the ArchiTECHt Show, co-hosts Derrick Harris (ArchiTECHt) and Barb Darrow (Fortune) speak with Digital Ocean CTO Julia Austin about trying to build a cloud platform simple enough for all developers to get started, but also advanced enough to keep them as customers when they grow. Austin also discusses a number of other topics, including her 8.5 years leading R&D at VMware—a tenure that spanned three CEOs—and the evolution to the VM and now toward the container.

In the news segment, Barb and Derrick discuss the underwhelmed response to Google's keynote session at its big Next cloud conference; the logic in HPE acquiring another billion-dollar storage company; and what Confluent's $50 million in funding says about the state of big data and open source.