Jamarlin talks with Karen Fleshman, founder of Racy Conversations. The lawyer and activist talks about women of privilege exploiting civil rights and diversity movements, and whether Kamala Harris can be trusted on criminal justice reform. They also discuss Facebook's problems, and whether these can be primarily sourced to Mark Zuckerberg's and Sheryl Sandberg's values and ethics. Recorded on April 9, 2018, in San Francisco, CA. 

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