In the eleventh episode of Beneath the Surface, Marketing Director and host Luke Hannon sits down with Ray Desmangles, Co-Owner of Optimal Planning Group and President & Founder of BraveHeart Inspired, for a thoughtful conversation about purpose, partnership, and the pursuit of both local and global impact.

Ray shares his journey from his first introduction to A&G Concrete Pools and Travis Leonard, to the personal and professional relationships that have grown from it. He also opens up about the creation of BraveHeart Inspired, an organization born from faith, built on service, and driven by the belief that leadership is best measured by the lives it touches. A conversation that moves beyond business, this episode offers a thoughtful look at how purpose can shape both people and organizations alike.