In this episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Bob Crossen, Lauren Baltas and Amy McIntosh discuss some recent news, including an omnibus appropriations bill, the U.S. EPA's official PFAS action plan, and Cape Town's plan for water resiliency. Then the hosts talk to Scott Shipley, three-time Olympian and five-time world champion paddler, who turned his affinity for whitewater sports into an engineering career, specializing in river engineering, whitewater park design, and the design and build of community-focused river parks.