In this episode conference director Matthew Biberman concludes his conversation with acclaimed war journalist and poet Tom Sleigh. Sleigh reads two poems ("Clearance" and the title piece) from his latest collection The King's Touch (Graywolf 2022). Other topics include surfing and dog sledding, as well as the tradition of the American long poem. While illuminating his own poems "Ending" and "Homage to Basho," Sleigh reminisces about fellow poets Seamus Heaney, Mark Strand, and Frank Bidart. For fans and practitioners of contemporary American poetry.