<p>Ben Pershing talks with Daniel Newhauser and Zach Cohen about the looming government shutdown and the fate of criminal justice reform; George Condon chronicles Trump's unusual relationship with Christmas.</p>

Ben Pershing talks with Daniel Newhauser and Zach Cohen about the looming government shutdown and the fate of criminal justice reform; George Condon chronicles Trump's unusual relationship with Christmas.

Episode 101: Shutdown Standoff

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