When it comes to polite discussion, there are two things you should never discuss: Politics and Religion. At the same time, most people would also rather not talk about insurance or data encryption. Well, I can’t say I’m all that polite, because that is exactly what this episode is about.

The need for encryption on or data has never been more important, but msot of us don’t know what is or isn’t encrypted and that knowledge has a direct bearing on how much cybersecurity insurance might cost. So we sat down with Spencer Timmel, head of cybersecurity and technology insurance for Safety National, the primary sponsor for this podcast, and we discussed the unmentionable topics.