Bex Markwick joins us today to tell us what she feels is wrong about the way we do phishing testing today. We'll talk about some of the areas where those might not go in the right direction and why, but also how we can do them better and what we should be focusing on.

Bex has presented twice at PancakesCon and gave a keynote presentation at BSides Basingstoke. You can find all of Bex's presentations at https://infobex.co.uk/speaking/