Today we are talking about insurance and government regulation... No! Wait! It's good stuff so bear with us.

As the US administration seems intent on dismantling government protections in cybersecutiy, we will all rely heavily on foreign governments and private industries, like insurance, to keep us safe from cybercrime. The Digital Operations Resilience Act, that the EU put into force in January, is a good example of the former, and the insurance industry is a good example of the latter.

We talk to Spencer Timmel, head of cybersecurity and technology for Safety National Insurance(our sponsor) and Arnaud Treps fromOdaseva about how insurance and cybersecurity tech companies are working hand-in-glove to fill in the gaps being left by the Musk/Trump administration.