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Episode 106 | Enabling Embezzlement Is As Easy As Getting Busy
Employee embezzlement doesn’t start with a million-dollar theft. For most busy practice owners, it starts when clinical demands crowd out oversight, reports stop getting reviewed (if they were in the first place), and safeguards never get built.
In this episode, Kara Kelley and Amy Wood are joined by Susan Gunn, CFE, a fraud expert who’s seen a clear uptick in embezzlement in 2024–2025 as practices returned to “heads-down clinical mode.” Susan breaks down the practical prevention moves that matter most: treating cash like a real control point (not an afterthought), tightening access to systems and merchant services, and reviewing practice software reports monthly so anomalies don’t have years to hide.
🎧 Listen in to learn how to protect your practice by counting the cash, locking the access, and actually reading the reports.
Legal Disclaimer:
This podcast and any related content are for informational and educational purposes only and do not constitute legal, financial, medical, tax, or regulatory advice. Clinical HR LLC and Copper Penny Consulting LLC are not law firms, and listening to this podcast does not create a client, consulting, or advisory relationship. Laws and regulations vary by jurisdiction and change frequently. Always consult qualified professional advisors regarding your specific situation.
Featured Expert:
Susan Gunn - [email protected]
www.susangunnsolutions.com
Podcast Hosts:
Amy Wood - CEO of Copper Penny Consulting LLC
www.copperpennnyconsulting.com
Kara Kelley - CEO of Clinical HR LLC
www.clinicalhr.com
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By Kara D. Kelley & Amy WoodEmployee embezzlement doesn’t start with a million-dollar theft. For most busy practice owners, it starts when clinical demands crowd out oversight, reports stop getting reviewed (if they were in the first place), and safeguards never get built.
In this episode, Kara Kelley and Amy Wood are joined by Susan Gunn, CFE, a fraud expert who’s seen a clear uptick in embezzlement in 2024–2025 as practices returned to “heads-down clinical mode.” Susan breaks down the practical prevention moves that matter most: treating cash like a real control point (not an afterthought), tightening access to systems and merchant services, and reviewing practice software reports monthly so anomalies don’t have years to hide.
🎧 Listen in to learn how to protect your practice by counting the cash, locking the access, and actually reading the reports.
Legal Disclaimer:
This podcast and any related content are for informational and educational purposes only and do not constitute legal, financial, medical, tax, or regulatory advice. Clinical HR LLC and Copper Penny Consulting LLC are not law firms, and listening to this podcast does not create a client, consulting, or advisory relationship. Laws and regulations vary by jurisdiction and change frequently. Always consult qualified professional advisors regarding your specific situation.
Featured Expert:
Susan Gunn - [email protected]
www.susangunnsolutions.com
Podcast Hosts:
Amy Wood - CEO of Copper Penny Consulting LLC
www.copperpennnyconsulting.com
Kara Kelley - CEO of Clinical HR LLC
www.clinicalhr.com