Dan and Paul travel to Las Vegas to spend a couple of hours with Penn Jillette to explore his views on the intersections of magic and comedy. In this first of two episodes, Penn describes his improbable path from juggling to clown college to the formation of the Asparagus Valley Cultural Society to the ultimate disillusion of that trio, which resulted in the birth of Penn and Teller. And how, through that entire journey, Penn grapples with his hatred of magic and his resistance to being funny.

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