Brenton and Chris discuss the recent election of a new Pope and its cultural impact, especially from an evangelical perspective. Chris expresses concern over evangelicals being too enthusiastic about the Catholic Church without acknowledging key doctrinal differences—particularly around justification, papal authority, and Scripture. They transition into a deep dive on the doctrine of the perseverance of the saints, contrasting it with views like "once saved, always saved." Chris emphasizes that true salvation involves ongoing faith and obedience, not just a one-time decision. The conversation highlights the importance of doctrinal clarity and perseverance in the Christian life.

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