My guest is Kenneth Tanner. He's the pastor of Church of the Holy Redeemer in Rochester Hills, Mich. He writes for numerous websites and magazines, including "The Huffington Post" and "Sojourners." We discuss the lectionary passages for the Ninth Sunday after Pentecost (C): Isaiah 1:1, 10-20, Hebrews 11:1-3, 8-16, and Luke 12:32-40.

Special Guest: Kenneth Tanner.