For all there is to say about the incoming presidential administration, and there's plenty, one thing that surprised us was to see chronic illness mentioned front and center in all the Health picks. Santi enlists Dr. Kavita Patel, Obama admin veteran, DC insider and MSNBC contributor, to make sense of it all, and help gauge if there's any cause for optimism for the IW movement.

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