This week's podcast is an actual, real life, phone call with Kavian McMillon. Each week, Kavian and I try and touch base about the Mango class and bounce ideas off each other.  With hopes of future phone interviews with Mango class members, I downloaded an app that allows me to record phone calls.  While Kavian and I were talking I wanted to test out the app to see the sound quality.  Turns out, we had an incredible conversation that is worth of a podcast episode.  At the time, Kavian did not know that I was recording, but I have since asked his permission to use the call as a Mango class podcast episode.  We discuss modernity, post-modernity, and post-post-modernity and the impact this has on spiritual conversations.  See you all Sunday!!