This week on the podcast, Kiel talks with his friend Hayley Rippy, a photographer here in the Phoenix area, all about the art of photography! They get into how Hayley started in photography, how she approaches shooting film vs digital, and about her time on the road with Circa Survive taking photos for them and how that has affected her approach to taking photos. This one also gets into some real gear nerd territory as well. This is a fun one so enjoy!