Ryan Skinner and his friend Dino discuss their experiences with addiction and recovery. Dino talks about his journey of getting sober and how he found solace in creative pursuits, like making furniture and painting. He explains that he didn't have a dramatic rock-bottom moment but struggled with fear and anxiety, which led him to alcohol. He tried various obsessions like exercise, but they didn't work out due to injuries.

Later in the conversation, Dino shares how he neglected his recovery for many years, which caused challenges in his personal life. However, he eventually sought help again, got a sponsor, and began doing the necessary work in the program. He now emphasizes the importance of continuous effort, maintaining sobriety, and helping others to stay on the right path. The conversation also briefly touches on Dino's passion for hiking and the Appalachian Trail.