This is the  eleventh episode of Curious, Connected Conversations, and Katy is in conversation with Jo Gifford.

In this conversation:
- Can we create a kinder world?
-  What Mother Nature teaches us
- What does being kinder really mean, and do we have the answers?
...and much more.

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Music credit: Joseph McDade

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