This one goes to 11. Perry and Kirsten corner singer/songwriter/guitarist/radio host/environmentalist/mensch/dad, Joe Sumner for an engaging back n' forth about Joe's post-Fiction Plane canon- a brand new album, forthcoming, called "Sunshine In The Night" and his newly released single "Hope," a get out the vote version of which ended up on MSNBC's Morning Joe butt 2 butt with Election Day, featuring a massive singalong that included the show's hosts, Joe and Mika, Sumner's pop, (Sting), Patti Scialfa, Ben Folds, Gaby Moreno, The Fantastic Negrito, Richard Marx, Southside Johnny, Juliana Hatfield and many more. Thanks again, Headcount.org. The rest is a love fest, the fact that Perry accuses Kirsten of being a marine biologist and flubs her name (Kristen), and Joe demanding that Perry STFU while Perry calls him a sailor, notwithstanding. Alas, chaos is staved off by a stimulating discussion extolling the virtues of nuclear energy as a solution to the climate crisis. Joe is then exposed as a newly anointed presenter/curator for Amazing Radio U.S. whereupon he is put to the test by choosing our Hottest On Record, a riveting find called "Men Of Steel" from Demetrius Ford, rendering himself victorious.