This week, I’m talking to journalist, lawyer, historian, and strength athlete, Oliver Bateman.

Oliver has produced content for a wide range of publications, including VICE, Vox, and The Atlantic, as well as wrestling-focused content for The Ringer.

When he’s not covering professional wrestling, Oliver is the co-host of the popular political podcast, “What’s Left?”

In this episode, Oliver and I discuss his early days as a wrestling fan, how he got involved in bodybuilding and powerlifting at a young age, the recent issues with wrestlers threatening to unionize, and his work on a cultural study about the hyper-real male bodies of the 20th century and their effects on the average guy.