This time I am joined by the insanely awesome Shane Torres! We talk portland comedy shows, The Console Wars, I get the date of the NES release wrong (I say Nov. 1985 when its really Oct.1985), blast processing, trading systems, online gaming, sports games and more. We review Clayfighter for the SNES and Left 4 Dead for the Xbox 360 (I say that Left 4 Dead was made on the Halo 2 engine which is a mistake. It was made on the Half Life 2 engine).