In a bit of a change up from the usual episode format, rather than focus on a particular topic Joe had an open and casual chat with illustrator, printmaker and small press creator Aleesha Nandhra. Both Aleesha and Joe were featured as part of the 2019 Broken Frontier Six to Watch, and they discuss how that affected their work, balancing having a creative job with having a creative pastime, and the pressures of promoting yourself on social media.