Well, we have been keeping Naki trapped in the pod-shed for the last week and made her co-host today with Karin, Jenna, and Stephanie, since Jean wasn't available. Guess she should have learned how to advocate for herself to get out, huh? lols But in all seriousness, have you ever had to advocate for yourself or others at work? What is advocacy? How do you do it? Listen to find out! Please don't forget to rate and review our podcast on iTunes or wherever you're listening. And if you'd like to hear the story Karin butchers at the beginning of the episode about Valerie Jarrett advocating for herself and how that influenced Michelle Obama's advocacy, please go listen to Michelle's podcast here:

Michelle Obama/Valerie Jarrett episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1DOjQtP8k7tdQybs7mYK49?si=Oi4kpqSyT_S1K6VmKqGgkQ&utm_source=copy-link