Can code be cool, and appeal to a wider audience—even elementary students in underrepresented communities? Absolutely, according to Armando Somoza and Chenits Pettigrew. As co-founders of CodeScty, they’re out to change computer science training as we know it, teaching complex concepts and curriculum through original hip hop music and videos.

So why hip hop? In their view, if a student can’t learn in the way that you teach, you have to teach in a way that a student can learn. And that means transforming learning and standards into a vocabulary and a culture that resonates with young people. Armando and Chenits join us to talk about CodeScty and their quest to develop not just coders, but true innovators who can impact our world and our societies in constructive and positive ways.