…in which Vanessa & Holland decide that mediocrity is not limited to average white men (and that not all average white men are mediocre!) — and encourage all Ask Your Work Wife women to follow the f*ck up.

Welcome to Ask Your Work Wife, a new podcast where Vanessa & Holland answer your real questions about real work in corporate America. Covering topics from quitting to interviewing to negotiating to resumes and meetings. It’s about knowing the rules of the game so you can get what you want.

Email us your questions at [email protected] and listen for a new episode every Wednesday. Don’t forget to follow us on Instagram at @askyourworkwife!