Back from my 2-week hiatus and starting the new year off right. This week's guest is my college roommate Mike Kelsey. He's a Pastor at Mclean Bible Church and brought his sense of realism and honesty to the pod. We touched on a little of everything from his role in enlightening people who don't look like us to the role of the church and the responsibility of leadership. If you like the things said please look my guy up. Special shoutout to my producer friends Damian and Steph for the first 2 tracks.