In this episode of Further, Brenton Grimm is joined by Nathan Williams and Matt Mitchell to reflect on their recent sermons covering John 9. They discuss how Jesus’ reference to himself as the “Son of Man” ties directly to Daniel 7, signaling his divine identity—a point that would’ve been clear to the religious leaders of the time. The conversation then moves to a nuanced discussion of suffering, exploring whether it's always the result of personal sin. Drawing from Scripture and pastoral insight, Nathan and Matt explain that while suffering can be tied to sin, it can also be a means for God's glory or personal growth. They encourage discernment and community in processing hardship, emphasizing that God can bring purpose from even the most painful trials.

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