In this episode, host Francine Barchett interviewed Aichiro Suryo Prabowo (Chiro), a Postdoctoral Associate at the Cornell University Southeast Asia Program (SEAP). Chiro examines whether addressing poverty and tackling climate change are mutually exclusive priorities by combining quantitative and textual analysis of Indonesia's central government budget documents from the past two decades. He assesses the degree to which national programs are focused on climate solutions and compares them to competing economic agendas.

Lightning Round: 3:55 Research and lecture summary: 10:30 Advice for researchers and recommendations: 31:01 Aichiro Suryo Prabowo's Top Recommendations:

• Music by Gardika Gigih

The music on the podcast is from "Me and Some Friends", a musical project by a group of friends at Cornell, to experiment with how the beautiful timbres of Gamelan music can meld with hypnotic guitar parts to create a contemplative and unique experience. Check them out here.

Produced by Neen Tangcharoenmonkong.