In today's all-new episode, our hosts Renato Mariotti and Asha Rangappa discuss the outrage, and potential illegality, of the Trump administration deporting lawful residents just because they oppose his cruel policies.

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Renato and Asha discuss the case of Mahmoud Khalil, a student activist at Columbia University, whose pro-Palestinian views led the Trump administration to threaten deportation. The hosts detail how Trump and Secretary of State Marco Rubio labeled Khalil as a potential threat to U.S. foreign policy goals in order to justify the violation of his protected status and Constitutional rights.

Asha, a Yale University National Security Law professor and former FBI special agent, provides insight into the legal framework at play. She explains the risk of what happens when the executive branch assumes unchecked power to detain and deport individuals based on their speech or beliefs. 

Renato, a former federal prosecutor and legal analyst, lays out how green cards are supposed to provide a status that cannot be revoked without due process. And he walks us through the various constitutional safeguards designed to protect lawful permanent residents from arbitrary government retribution. 

Our hosts also reflect on what these moves mean for U.S. foreign policy and national security, exploring scenarios where hostile foreign governments could exploit and worsen the impact on the freedom of speech. In this broader lens, we’ll also talk about a recent executive order targeting Democratic-leaning law firm Perkins Coie.  

But all is not lost, as Asha and Renato describe the glimmers of hope that can be seen from the judiciary. A tough legal battle awaits, which gives the courts an opportunity to highly scrutinize, and perhaps even strike down, Trump’s overreaching policies. 

We hope you enjoy this episode! 

Be sure to join us next week as Asha and Renato continue to bring clarity to the complex issues that can’t be boiled down to simple sound bites, right here on It's Complicated.

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