In this episode of Further, Brenton sits down with Clay to talk through his recent sermon on anger from John 11. Clay shares how his own personal struggles with anger helped shape his message and how Jesus’ response to grief and brokenness reveals a purposeful, righteous anger. They discuss the difference between stuffing or venting anger and what it means to bring our emotions to Jesus with honesty and self-control. The conversation also highlights how pride, shame, and isolation can fuel our anger—but how the gospel offers a better way. Through passages like Ephesians 4 and Romans 8:1, they point listeners to the hope and freedom found in Christ.

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