An interview with litigation attorney Scott Sholder, of Cowan, DeBaets, Abrahams & Sheppard. We talk about misconceptions about fair use, memes, and the future of copyrights in a post-COVID world. We also talk about his love for black metal, and I ask him some novel questions about what happens to a band's trademark when its members murder each other. An intriguing conversation with a brilliant young lawyer, thanks Scott!

Special Guest: Scott Sholder.