‘The Governor’ Vanessa Frake joins me for episode 115! We spoke about the success of her brilliant book ‘The Governer’, what made Vanessa want to join the prison service, starting at Holloway, her early encounter with Myra Hindley, her experience of Rose West, true crime, moving to Wormwood Scrubs, drugs & gangs in prisons, dealing with Pete Doherty, Vanessa’s life these days & loads more!

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