President of Clear Home, Casey Hreinson, is this episode's special guest. Kevin, Jesse, and Casey talk with podcast producer, Jared Dyer, about his latest Ironman race in St. George, Fit Con with Casey, as well as Jesse's wife's 40th birthday party. In sports, the NFL draft, changes in MLB, as well as the confrontation with Denver Nuggets center Nikola Jokic and Phoenix Suns owner Mat Ishbia during Game 4 in the NBA Playoffs is discussed.