It’s time for another American Girl deep dive! This time, the focus is pioneer girl Kirsten Larson — and Alli couldn’t have picked a better guest for this one. On Episode 117, she welcomes the ~queen~ of pop culture deep dives, Kate Kennedy from the Be There in Five podcast.

Tune in to listen to Alli and Kate’s conversation about Meet Kirsten, which was published in 1988 and written by Janet Shaw. They share about their personal histories with the American Girl brand as a whole and examine the emotional roller coaster that is Meet Kirsten, specifically. Kate and Alli also discuss the ways in which Kirsten’s immigrant story is still resonant and relevant today.

Follow Kate on Instagram (@bethereinfive) and Twitter (@BeThereInFive).

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