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In Episode 119 of HT-Radio, Pr. Borghardt is joined by Deaconess Sara Lemon and Sandra Ostapowich. Throughout the first half of the episode, Deaconess Lemon continually points us to Christ while talking about Sarah in the Old Testament and the references made to her in the New Testament. Then, Pr. Borghardt and Sandra Ostapowich begin a two part discussion on women’s ordination and how the position of Pastor is actually beneath women.