Basically a lovely catch up with a great friend, Andrew Convey. Andy fronted Burn The Fleet and can occasionally be seen as part of 'Future Love', a great unheralded rock band from Northampton.

We mainly cover Burn The Fleet and the making/writing/production of 'The Modern Shape', but we do explore the best polar pattern and what happens when you wall jump a wall and there is now wall... (spoiler, you get hurt.)