This week Joyce speaks with Dr. Dave Baiocchi.  They’ll talk about how Dave became interested in science and some of the reasons he transitioned out of academia. They’ll discuss science policy work he’s done at the RAND Corporation, and about his work at Imaginative Futures, where he designs infographics for complex problems. As you’ll hear, Dave has thought a lot about the PhD process in his own life and while working with PhD students at the RAND Corporation. We’ll talk about ways people can think about designing and bridging a PhD if you think you might want to go a different direction after your graduate studies.

Here are some books Dave recommends about designing your career: Designing Your Life, Strengths Finder, Personal Value Proposition workbook, and Crossroads of Should and Must. Here are some examples of some of the infographics he’s recently made.

Music by: Wataboi