Alex, Anthony, and Joseph sit down with none other than the great Stephen Kelly. He has been a teacher at North Park University for over a decade, a Music Director at his church, and a huge blessing to our ministry. Join us as we talk about how we as a church have moved away from authenticity and have trusted a "formula" to get people in our church. Such a great conversation that challenges us to just worry about the people and trust in God.   

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