This week, Megan and Eliyannah are joined by Megan's mom, Sheryl Grogan to discuss the joys and struggles of having a kid who makes their own path in the world. Also discussed: Megan's fear of spiders, the perfection of Shondaland, celebrating joy in every day life.

Producer's note: Please forgive the slight echo! It is a very heartwarming and funny episode that I loved editing, so I hope you enjoy it too :)