After a longer-than-intended hiatus (we swear we’re fine), Kay and Zach return with a sprawling, thoughtful, and delightfully unhinged conversation that somehow starts with Christmas cookies and animal ownership and ends with existential clarity and following ducks around Disneyland.

This episode digs into the surprisingly loaded question of what it really means when someone says they’re “not a pet person,” and how that single phrase can reveal deeper truths about responsibility, compatibility, boundaries, and trust - whether in dating, friendships, or long-term relationships. Along the way, Kay and Zach unpack how much of ourselves we’re expected to absorb when we let someone into our lives, and where it’s okay to draw the line.

From there, the conversation spirals (naturally): from candy canes and potato nutrition facts, to drunken raccoons on benders, to fortune cookies that absolutely should be more threatening. Then things turn reflective as the duo zooms out to talk about generational trauma, living through too many historical events, and why “everything happens for a reason” might be the worst sentence ever invented.

The back half? Quiet profundity. Kay talks about approaching the end of her 30s, entering what she lovingly dubs her villain era - not the evil kind, but the kind where she finally chooses herself. Together, Kay and Zach reflect on how fear, wanderlust, intention, and missed exits shape a life and why sometimes the most meaningful moments happen when you stop trying to get somewhere and just…go.

It’s a cozy, philosophical, laugh-heavy return that reminds us why we started this podcast in the first place: curiosity, connection, and figuring it out in real time. And wow do we need that sh*t right now.