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It's hard to talk about sometimes. When a man suffers the pain of loss and despair, grief is real and present whether it's seen or expressed. 

One of our co-hosts, Ellis Murphree, shares the story of the what it was like to go through the tragic loss of his first wife and what God did in him to set him on course to hope and healing. 

Beyond that, Murph has embraced his new reality, and has given himself to help others like him in their time of suffering and pain. 

Loss and suffering is no joke for anyone. Listen to this episode as our five guys reflect on Murph's experience and give comment and insight to his response and recourse.