In this episode, Jean is joined by Mrs. Loretta Gandy discussing Chapter 6 of the book "Black Man's Burden." Mrs. Gandy was administrative assistant to VP Dr. George Barnes for 40 years. The chapter focuses on how Holtzclaw dealt with outside influences while building a school for Negroes in rural Mississippi. Mrs. Gandy highlights the timeless aspects of the human experience depicted in the book and emphasizes Holtzclaw's ability to overcome extreme conditions and challenges. The conversation delves into Holtzclaw's perseverance, creative problem-solving, and his impact on the community, including interactions with different religious denominations. The discussion also touches on personal reflections, connections to present-day struggles, and the broader theme of pursuing dreams despite overwhelming obstacles.

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