Rachel Zucker talks with poet-critic-professor Steph Burt about types of criticism, ethical problems of criticism, gender expression, female embodiment, an aesthetic of adornment and neon violet and an aesthetic of naturalness and apparent authenticity, Yeats, form, formalism and informality, The Vision, Kitty Pride and the desire to dematerialize, authority and male privilege, Steph’s recent book of criticism “The Poem Is You” and their unpublished manuscript “Advice from the Lights,” different kinds of questions one might ask of short, lyric art works v. the kinds of questions one might ask of longer more comprehensive works, persona poems, cultural appropriation, whiteness, influence and “a poetics of incremental change.”