In this episode of the Tackle HIV Talking Stigma Podcast, Gareth Thomas is joined by double Olympic champion Dame Kelly Holmes for a powerful and personal conversation about stigma, identity and self-acceptance. Kelly reflects on her journey of hiding her sexuality for decades while serving in the military and competing at the highest level of sport, and the toll that secrecy and fear had on her mental health.

Gareth shares his experience of living with HIV, challenging misconceptions and highlighting the stigma that still exists despite advances in treatment. Together, they explore the impact of societal judgment and the importance of education in breaking down stigma. Their conversation emphasises the value of authenticity, the courage it takes to live openly and the role that visibility and storytelling play in driving change. This episode is an honest and inspiring discussion about resilience, compassion and the power of being true to yourself.