Did you just hear an ear-splitting scream? Why yes, Mike and Ken sure did, which means Mel has arrived and they're talking about "Terror of the Vervoids"! Besides talking about Mel's first appearance, they also discuss the troubled behind-the-scenes making of this story, the Doctor's dubious choice of this adventure as his defense, and - plot twist! - what they're looking forward to with Doctor Who in 2021! There's a lot to chew on, so pull up a wicker lounge chair and have a listen!