Four people take us on their emotional journey through the landscape of government. How do you manage the personal toll that comes with trying to make change?

Part 1 guests: Jamie McGeathy and Blanca Martinez 

7:50: Introduction to Jamie McGeathy
8:10: What did you do to answer your own questions about state government?
11:45: What did you do with your frustration about lack of access to information? 
14:07: Now how do you feel about it all?
15:35: Introduction to Blanca Martinez
14:46: Was there a particular moment in which you realized you wanted to work in public policy?
18:50: How did you first get involved?
21:30: Who did you learn from in terms of how to affect change?
24:25: What were the lessons you learned about how to navigate the state capitol and structures of power? 
28:14: Did you feel like you were able to be effective? 
30:58: What sent you in a different direction from working at the legislature?
38:21: How do you show up for public policy today? 
41:20 Do you have anything else to share about the idea of how we find our place and stick to it?