Jess and Sara get a bit meta this week (some things never change), and discuss why academia is even a job. We walk through a fun and nerdy thought experiment: Is the Curriculum Vita a list of manifest variable indicators of some sort of latent variable of academia?  We discuss when and how we decide to leave a project lost in the woods. And think, for the first time in forever, about a project that we had both abandoned and almost forgotten about.

Here’s the “Ginther report” Sara talked about.

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