This week on Further, Brenton Grimm sits down with Clay Baker and Matt Mitchell to unpack John 12 and its themes of light, mercy, and judgment. Clay focused on the oneness of the Trinity, while Matt highlighted four reasons Jesus came—so that we might see the Father, walk in the light, experience mercy, and gain life. Together they addressed the tension in Jesus’ words, “I did not come to judge,” showing how mercy now points to a future judgment and our present call to confront sin with gentleness. The conversation also dug into early church debates over Arianism, why the Trinity remains essential today, and the implications of heresies like Mormonism or Oneness theology. Finally, the group considered how light versus darkness shapes evangelism, how fear of man keeps many silent, and how remembering Jesus’ full divinity fuels boldness in the Christian life.

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